Viewers vs Streamers, Selection 2: 64 players, 8 places

by TantrumUA ·

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About the day

Sunday, the second selection day of Viewers vs Streamers. The 64 players who survived Saturday started again from 0 points and played seven more rounds for 8 places in the semi-finals, where the 8 invited streamers are waiting.

Every board below is interactive. Hover a minion, a trinket or a hero power to read the card, and press ▶ VOD to watch that fight on stream.

How the day went

  1. Round 164players
  2. Round 264players
  3. Round 364players
  4. −16 · cut line 11.5 pts
  5. Round 448players
  6. Round 548players
  7. −16 · cut line 22.5 pts
  8. Round 632players
  9. −16 · cut line 31.5 pts
  10. Round 716players
  11. −8 · cut line 39.5 pts
  12. Semi-finals8players

The points are the same as on Saturday, 9 for 1st down to 1 for 8th, but the cuts are steeper: 31.5 points after six games is more than a 4th place in every one of them. The lobbies were harder too, the average lobby rating went from 13,158 in round 1 to 14,590 in the last one.

The eight who went through, with their Sunday points:

Sunday points
Lyme
50.5
Sevel
48
GOTOR8
44
Alutemu
43.5
GuacHS
43.5
FanJka
43
DumplingDan
40
polskikabak
39.5

Lyme took 50.5 of the 63 points a player could score. DKing finished on 39, half a point short. Over both days together Sevel collected the most, 94.

Day two in numbers

Counted over the 161 boards from 37/42 lobbies that could be recovered from streams and logs. As on Saturday, the table takes the last fight of each lobby, 1st against 2nd, in the 30 lobbies where both boards are known, and a tribe counts once per lobby:

Won the lobbyReached the final two
Beasts67
Undead44
Murlocs46
No clear tribe48
Pirates34
Elementals22
Mechs23
Quilboar23
Menagerie26
Demons13
Aberrations04

This covers far more of the day than Saturday's table did, which is more representative of what actually won and lost the lobbies.

Trinkets

106 different trinkets showed up on these boards:

Picked most

  1. 1boards 13
    won 3
  2. 2boards 12
    won 3
  3. 3boards 11
    won 4
  4. 4boards 11
    won 3
  5. 5boards 9
    won 1
  6. 6boards 9
    won 1
  7. 7boards 8
    won 3
  8. 8boards 7
    won 2
  9. 9boards 7
    won 2
  10. 10boards 7
    won 2

Won most

  1. 1boards 11
    won 4
  2. 2boards 4
    won 3
  3. 3boards 8
    won 3
  4. 4boards 11
    won 3
  5. 5boards 12
    won 3
  6. 6boards 13
    won 3
  7. 7boards 2
    won 2
  8. 8boards 2
    won 2
  9. 9boards 3
    won 2
  10. 10boards 3
    won 2

was the most picked trinket on both days. was on fewer boards than on Saturday, 8, and still won 3 of them.

Round 1: Daggers and a Felboar mirror

Lobby 4: Demons with two Daggers

DempseyRoll won on a Demon board with two through . on and fired their Deathrattles at the start of every combat: Fodders, keywords and scaling through Wrathguard. made Balinda and a Leeroy Demons, so they could eat the Tavern for keywords too.

DempseyRoll (1st), round 1, lobby 4, turn 14
Sindragosa, 19 healthSindragosa
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xiaoliaoo took 2nd on Reno. let his keep its DS for three hits while it stripped keywords, but a Quil board fed by could not grow as fast as Demons eating the Tavern.

xiaoliaoo (2nd)
Reno Jackson, 10 healthReno Jackson
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Lobby 3: Felboar vs Felboar

Two boards built around the same minion - . shamanovskii had a golden one, with a Divine Shield, as he was playing Inge on 1 health.

shamanovskii (1st), round 1, lobby 3, turn 15
Inge, the Iron Hymn, 1 healthInge, the Iron Hymn

Lyme's was way smaller with two behind it. The same plan a few turns behind, and Lyme, a player that ended with the most points for Sunday, gets a 2nd.

Lyme (2nd)
Marin the Manager, 8 healthMarin the Manager

Round 2: Admiration

catlamity's Mechs have one huge minion, a powered by 24 per click and two for combat. The is where the second comes from. All of it on at 2 health, securing 1st place.

catlamity (1st), round 2, lobby 4, turn 15
Skycap'n Kragg, 2 healthSkycap'n Kragg

polskikabak had a solid board of Quilboar at respectable 10k, and a hand of ten cards, but the Mechs were enough to get through it: 2nd.

polskikabak (2nd)
Zerek, Master Cloner, 10 healthZerek, Master Cloner

Round 3: a Menagerie that lived and a Murloc scam

Lobby 5: Beasts on 1 health

The last round before the first cut. Dwarmm, at 1 health, played Beasts: golden , a golden and a golden , two . One of the Chickens taunted to not get a sniped by a relatively small , say 50/50.

Dwarmm (1st), round 3, lobby 5, turn 15
Sir Finley Mrrgglton, 1 healthSir Finley Mrrgglton
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Archeron5842 put together a Menagerie instead and its tempo kept him alive while the others died: a solid 2nd. In a tournament that is sometimes the best plan - to go for pure tempo instead of dying while trying to go for a 1st.

Archeron5842 (2nd)
Sire Denathrius, 4 healthSire Denathrius
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Lobby 6: a hand full of Venomous

Grzelu won this one with scam. Three golden pulling out the hand full of with . Absolutely disgusting amount of minions with Venomous.

Grzelu (1st), round 3, lobby 6, turn 19
Scabbs Cutterbutter, 14 health, 5 armorScabbs Cutterbutter
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rakafakaTTV had the right answer in mind: for anti-scam, and a to kill some bigger targets. It still lost, 2nd place, but that was a very good effort, unfortunately for him - no Undead in lobby.

rakafakaTTV (2nd)
Tae'thelan Bloodwatcher, 6 healthTae'thelan Bloodwatcher
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Round 4: everything at 12,000

DumplingDan on with a Menagerie. gives a decent stat boost early on and clears the difference through buffing said minion if it doesn't die immediately, which boosts the deathrattle.

DumplingDan (1st), round 4, lobby 2, turn 13
Sire Denathrius, 22 healthSire Denathrius
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Dwarmm had a good beetle board with them reaching up to 2k attack, but that still wasn't enough to win the fight.

Dwarmm (2nd)
Farseer Nobundo, 3 healthFarseer Nobundo
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Round 5: turn 20 and the biggest board of the day

Lobby 3: two Leeroys against three big minions

The longest final combat in all the boards I have. FanJka, on , did not try to match the other side's size. Two Leeroys, one of them with Reborn, kill whatever kills them, were the perfect response to a board with exactly 3 high-statted minions, and two clean up the rest.

FanJka (1st), round 5, lobby 3, turn 20
Murloc Holmes, 10 health, 5 armorMurloc Holmes
Rickooz (2nd)
Reno Jackson, 1 healthReno Jackson

Lobby 4: Undead

The biggest board of the day belongs to a player who did not make the top 8. Haunted on : a golden with the .

Haunted (1st), round 5, lobby 4, turn 17
A. F. Kay, 9 health, 5 armorA. F. Kay

polskikabak went for scam, but with gigantic stats and good hits must've done the trick. 2nd place, and still one of the eight at the end of the day.

polskikabak (2nd)
Murloc Holmes, 8 healthMurloc Holmes

Lobby 2: a Hogrider mirror

Sevel, the best player over both days, on Marin: two golden and two .

Sevel (1st), round 5, lobby 2, turn 14
Marin the Manager, 21 healthMarin the Manager
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GOTOR8 played the same Tunnelers and Hogriders but lacked in stats and took 2nd. Both are in the semi-finals.

GOTOR8 (2nd)
Sindragosa, 13 healthSindragosa
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Round 6: tribe mirrors and Daggers

Lobby 4: Undead vs Undead

ChessMan's golden with two golden .

ChessMan (1st), round 6, lobby 4, turn 15
Marin the Manager, 6 healthMarin the Manager
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Maverick played the same comp with a Butcher, but I suppose got bad hits and less summons.

Maverick (2nd)
Zerek, Master Cloner, 21 healthZerek, Master Cloner
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Lobby 2: Beasts and Beasts

GOTOR8 on Reno with 6 golden beasts and a Titus, increasing the attack through .

GOTOR8 (1st), round 6, lobby 2, turn 14
Reno Jackson, 21 healthReno Jackson
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Alutemu's beetle board had great attack numbers and the fight was a 50/50 on whomever takes it, which Gotor8 won.

Alutemu (2nd)
Farseer Nobundo, 2 healthFarseer Nobundo
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Lobby 1: the Dagger again

Lyme again, with Elementals and, you guessed it, a . with a + is an absolutely disgusting combination, where it has to be hit 3 times before it's even open to get killed, and other Dark Gifts were on point too. 1st place, and the round that put Lyme through with a game to spare.

Lyme (1st), round 6, lobby 1, turn 17
Reno Jackson, 7 health, 5 armorReno Jackson

Round 7: Beetles

Two lobbies of eight, the top 8 by points go through. FanJka on won one of them with a classic board that Alutemu had a round earlier: , Reborn and trinkets. The biggest minion before combat is 19/25.

FanJka (1st), round 7, lobby 2, turn 15
Captain Eudora, 19 health, 5 armorCaptain Eudora

GuacHS's Aberrations took 2nd, which was enough: both went to the semi-finals. It is FanJka's second 1st place of the day.

GuacHS (2nd)
Master Nguyen, 2 healthMaster Nguyen4.3k/2.3k

Heroes, both days

Heroes are counted over both days, 298 boards, since one day is too few for 80 different heroes:

Picked most

  1. 1boards 21
    won 9
  2. 2boards 13
    won 6
  3. 3boards 13
    won 3
  4. 4boards 12
    won 3
  5. 5boards 10
    won 3
  6. 6boards 9
    won 3
  7. 7boards 9
    won 2
  8. 8boards 8
    won 3
  9. 9boards 8
    won 3
  10. 10boards 8
    won 1

Won most

  1. 1boards 21
    won 9
  2. 2boards 13
    won 6
  3. 3boards 4
    won 3
  4. 4boards 5
    won 3
  5. 5boards 5
    won 3
  6. 6boards 7
    won 3
  7. 7boards 8
    won 3
  8. 8boards 8
    won 3
  9. 9boards 9
    won 3
  10. 10boards 10
    won 3

was the hero of the weekend: 21 of these boards, 9 of them winners. Three Renos went into a late fight on 1 health, and two of them won it.

Armor gets you there, it does not win

The same boards, split by the armor the hero starts with:

Starting armorBoardsTop 4Top 2WonWin rate
0–83833211232%
9–114641241226%
12–1412092643630%
15+9475371516%

Heroes with 15 or more armor are almost a third of everything that reached the late game, so the armor does its job: it keeps a player alive long enough to collect placement points, but they turned those boards into a win only 15 times out of 94, half as often as the heroes with less armor.

The hero power is not always the hero's

On 117/274 boards where the hero power is known, it is not the one that hero starts with. Those boards finished in the top two 62% of the time, against 34% for the boards still on their own power. The two that showed up most are both about the end of a game: surprisingly, , 9 boards and 5 wins, and not surprisingly , 8 boards, 5 wins and 7 finishes in the top two.

What was strong over both days

Every board I have from both days, 298 of them, sorted by the comp it is built around. The comps and their core cards come from two tier lists, Firestone's and HSReplay's. A board with pieces of two comps goes to the one its biggest minion belongs to, and a board built around nothing on either list is "No clear comp".

A board only gets captured if its player was still around late in the game, so the average placement across all of them is 2.92, not 4.5. Read every number against 2.92.

CompFirestoneHSReplayBoardsAverage place1stTop 25th or lower
Last One Standing Menagerie––131.547120
Choose One QuilboarBA102.00470
Snazzy / Butcher UndeadAA142.144100
Discover PiratesAA152.339103
APM UndeadSS62.33230
Tea SetAA72.43151
APM MechsSA102.50450
Beetle / Leviathan BeastsAA152.73272
Glambot MechsAA92.78352
Scam MurlocsAS / A172.82383
Felboar QuilboarSS192.953114
Lobster BeastsSS263.0011138
Discard AberrationsCB83.13132
DemonsAA323.197148
Azerite ElementalsSS93.22252
Deity AberrationsBA113.27242
No clear comp353.464118
DragonsA to CB123.50354
Eternal Knight UndeadCB113.64022
Handbuff MurlocsBB63.67122

Comps seen fewer than six times, 13 boards in all, are left out of the table.

What comes next

Lyme, Sevel, GOTOR8, Alutemu, GuacHS, FanJka, DumplingDan and polskikabak play the semi-finals A on November 13 and semi-finals B on November 14 against eight invited streamers, and the final is on November 15.

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Big thanks once again to everyone who shared their logs: Lyme, Gotor8, Polskikabak, NightKnight, FanJka and Titus, and to everyone who streamed their games.

All the boards recovered from streams and logs are in the board pool.