Viewers vs Streamers, Selection 2: 64 players, 8 places
by TantrumUA ·
About the day
Sunday, the second selection day of Viewers vs Streamers. The 64 players who survived Saturday started again from 0 points and played seven more rounds for 8 places in the semi-finals, where the 8 invited streamers are waiting.
- Lyme won the day with 50.5 of the 63 points a player could score, and DKing missed the semi-finals by half a point.
- The best comp of the weekend is on neither tier list: 12 of the 13 boards built around finished in the top two.
- Armor got players to the late game and did not win it: heroes with 15 or more armor won 15 of their 94 boards, half as often as the rest.
Every board below is interactive. Hover a minion, a trinket or a hero power to read the card, and press ▶ VOD to watch that fight on stream.
How the day went
- Round 164players
- Round 264players
- Round 364players
- −16 · cut line 11.5 pts
- Round 448players
- Round 548players
- −16 · cut line 22.5 pts
- Round 632players
- −16 · cut line 31.5 pts
- Round 716players
- −8 · cut line 39.5 pts
- Semi-finals8players
The points are the same as on Saturday, 9 for 1st down to 1 for 8th, but the cuts are steeper: 31.5 points after six games is more than a 4th place in every one of them. The lobbies were harder too, the average lobby rating went from 13,158 in round 1 to 14,590 in the last one.
The eight who went through, with their Sunday points:
- Lyme
- 50.5
- Sevel
- 48
- GOTOR8
- 44
- Alutemu
- 43.5
- GuacHS
- 43.5
- FanJka
- 43
- DumplingDan
- 40
- polskikabak
- 39.5
Lyme took 50.5 of the 63 points a player could score. DKing finished on 39, half a point short. Over both days together Sevel collected the most, 94.
Day two in numbers
Counted over the 161 boards from 37/42 lobbies that could be recovered from streams and logs. As on Saturday, the table takes the last fight of each lobby, 1st against 2nd, in the 30 lobbies where both boards are known, and a tribe counts once per lobby:
| Beasts | Undead | Murlocs | No clear tribe | Pirates | Elementals | Mechs | Quilboar | Menagerie | Demons | Aberrations | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Won the lobby | 6 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 0 |
| Reached the final two | 7 | 4 | 6 | 8 | 4 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 6 | 3 | 4 |
| Won the lobby | Reached the final two | |
|---|---|---|
| Beasts | 6 | 7 |
| Undead | 4 | 4 |
| Murlocs | 4 | 6 |
| No clear tribe | 4 | 8 |
| Pirates | 3 | 4 |
| Elementals | 2 | 2 |
| Mechs | 2 | 3 |
| Quilboar | 2 | 3 |
| Menagerie | 2 | 6 |
| Demons | 1 | 3 |
| Aberrations | 0 | 4 |
This covers far more of the day than Saturday's table did, which is more representative of what actually won and lost the lobbies.
- In 8 of the 30 finals both players were on the same tribe: Quilboar, Undead and Beasts twice each, Demons and Murlocs once.
- Dragons won 4 of their 5 finals on Saturday and did not reach a single one on Sunday.
- Aberrations reached the final two 4 times and lost all 4.
- Murlocs, with no win on Saturday, took 4 lobbies, and one of those boards is the longest fight of the day.
- was on 6 boards: two 1st places, three 2nd, one 3rd.
Trinkets
106 different trinkets showed up on these boards:
Picked most
- 1
boards 13
won 3 - 2
boards 12
won 3 - 3
boards 11
won 4 - 4
boards 11
won 3 - 5
boards 9
won 1 - 6
boards 9
won 1 - 7
boards 8
won 3 - 8
boards 7
won 2 - 9
boards 7
won 2 - 10
boards 7
won 2
Won most
- 1
boards 11
won 4 - 2
boards 4
won 3 - 3
boards 8
won 3 - 4
boards 11
won 3 - 5
boards 12
won 3 - 6
boards 13
won 3 - 7
boards 2
won 2 - 8
boards 2
won 2 - 9
boards 3
won 2 - 10
boards 3
won 2
was the most picked trinket on both days. was on fewer boards than on Saturday, 8, and still won 3 of them.
Round 1: Daggers and a Felboar mirror
Lobby 4: Demons with two Daggers
DempseyRoll won on a Demon board with two through . on and fired their Deathrattles at the start of every combat: Fodders, keywords and scaling through Wrathguard. made Balinda and a Leeroy Demons, so they could eat the Tavern for keywords too.
xiaoliaoo took 2nd on Reno. let his keep its DS for three hits while it stripped keywords, but a Quil board fed by could not grow as fast as Demons eating the Tavern.
Lobby 3: Felboar vs Felboar
Two boards built around the same minion - . shamanovskii had a golden one, with a Divine Shield, as he was playing Inge on 1 health.
Inge, the Iron HymnLyme's was way smaller with two behind it. The same plan a few turns behind, and Lyme, a player that ended with the most points for Sunday, gets a 2nd.
Marin the ManagerRound 2: Admiration
catlamity's Mechs have one huge minion, a powered by 24 per click and two for combat. The is where the second comes from. All of it on at 2 health, securing 1st place.
Skycap'n Kraggpolskikabak had a solid board of Quilboar at respectable 10k, and a hand of ten cards, but the Mechs were enough to get through it: 2nd.
Zerek, Master ClonerRound 3: a Menagerie that lived and a Murloc scam
Lobby 5: Beasts on 1 health
The last round before the first cut. Dwarmm, at 1 health, played Beasts: golden , a golden and a golden , two . One of the Chickens taunted to not get a sniped by a relatively small , say 50/50.
Archeron5842 put together a Menagerie instead and its tempo kept him alive while the others died: a solid 2nd. In a tournament that is sometimes the best plan - to go for pure tempo instead of dying while trying to go for a 1st.
Lobby 6: a hand full of Venomous
Grzelu won this one with scam. Three golden pulling out the hand full of with . Absolutely disgusting amount of minions with Venomous.
rakafakaTTV had the right answer in mind: for anti-scam, and a to kill some bigger targets. It still lost, 2nd place, but that was a very good effort, unfortunately for him - no Undead in lobby.
Round 4: everything at 12,000
DumplingDan on with a Menagerie. gives a decent stat boost early on and clears the difference through buffing said minion if it doesn't die immediately, which boosts the deathrattle.
Dwarmm had a good beetle board with them reaching up to 2k attack, but that still wasn't enough to win the fight.
Round 5: turn 20 and the biggest board of the day
Lobby 3: two Leeroys against three big minions
The longest final combat in all the boards I have. FanJka, on , did not try to match the other side's size. Two Leeroys, one of them with Reborn, kill whatever kills them, were the perfect response to a board with exactly 3 high-statted minions, and two clean up the rest.
Murloc Holmes
Reno JacksonLobby 4: Undead
The biggest board of the day belongs to a player who did not make the top 8. Haunted on : a golden with the .
A. F. Kaypolskikabak went for scam, but with gigantic stats and good hits must've done the trick. 2nd place, and still one of the eight at the end of the day.
Murloc HolmesLobby 2: a Hogrider mirror
Sevel, the best player over both days, on Marin: two golden and two .
GOTOR8 played the same Tunnelers and Hogriders but lacked in stats and took 2nd. Both are in the semi-finals.
Round 6: tribe mirrors and Daggers
Lobby 4: Undead vs Undead
ChessMan's golden with two golden .
Maverick played the same comp with a Butcher, but I suppose got bad hits and less summons.
Lobby 2: Beasts and Beasts
GOTOR8 on Reno with 6 golden beasts and a Titus, increasing the attack through .
Alutemu's beetle board had great attack numbers and the fight was a 50/50 on whomever takes it, which Gotor8 won.
Lobby 1: the Dagger again
Lyme again, with Elementals and, you guessed it, a . with a + is an absolutely disgusting combination, where it has to be hit 3 times before it's even open to get killed, and other Dark Gifts were on point too. 1st place, and the round that put Lyme through with a game to spare.
Reno JacksonRound 7: Beetles
Two lobbies of eight, the top 8 by points go through. FanJka on won one of them with a classic board that Alutemu had a round earlier: , Reborn and trinkets. The biggest minion before combat is 19/25.
Captain EudoraGuacHS's Aberrations took 2nd, which was enough: both went to the semi-finals. It is FanJka's second 1st place of the day.
Master Nguyen4.3k/2.3kHeroes, both days
Heroes are counted over both days, 298 boards, since one day is too few for 80 different heroes:
Picked most
- 1
boards 21
won 9 - 2
boards 13
won 6 - 3
boards 13
won 3 - 4
boards 12
won 3 - 5
boards 10
won 3 - 6
boards 9
won 3 - 7
boards 9
won 2 - 8
boards 8
won 3 - 9
boards 8
won 3 - 10
boards 8
won 1
Won most
- 1
boards 21
won 9 - 2
boards 13
won 6 - 3
boards 4
won 3 - 4
boards 5
won 3 - 5
boards 5
won 3 - 6
boards 7
won 3 - 7
boards 8
won 3 - 8
boards 8
won 3 - 9
boards 9
won 3 - 10
boards 10
won 3
was the hero of the weekend: 21 of these boards, 9 of them winners. Three Renos went into a late fight on 1 health, and two of them won it.
Armor gets you there, it does not win
The same boards, split by the armor the hero starts with:
| Starting armor | Boards | Top 4 | Top 2 | Won | Win rate |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 0–8 | 38 | 33 | 21 | 12 | 32% |
| 9–11 | 46 | 41 | 24 | 12 | 26% |
| 12–14 | 120 | 92 | 64 | 36 | 30% |
| 15+ | 94 | 75 | 37 | 15 | 16% |
Heroes with 15 or more armor are almost a third of everything that reached the late game, so the armor does its job: it keeps a player alive long enough to collect placement points, but they turned those boards into a win only 15 times out of 94, half as often as the heroes with less armor.
The hero power is not always the hero's
On 117/274 boards where the hero power is known, it is not the one that hero starts with. Those boards finished in the top two 62% of the time, against 34% for the boards still on their own power. The two that showed up most are both about the end of a game: surprisingly, , 9 boards and 5 wins, and not surprisingly , 8 boards, 5 wins and 7 finishes in the top two.
What was strong over both days
Every board I have from both days, 298 of them, sorted by the comp it is built around. The comps and their core cards come from two tier lists, Firestone's and HSReplay's. A board with pieces of two comps goes to the one its biggest minion belongs to, and a board built around nothing on either list is "No clear comp".
A board only gets captured if its player was still around late in the game, so the average placement across all of them is 2.92, not 4.5. Read every number against 2.92.
| Comp | Firestone | HSReplay | Boards | Average place | 1st | Top 2 | 5th or lower |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Last One Standing Menagerie | – | – | 13 | 1.54 | 7 | 12 | 0 |
| Choose One Quilboar | B | A | 10 | 2.00 | 4 | 7 | 0 |
| Snazzy / Butcher Undead | A | A | 14 | 2.14 | 4 | 10 | 0 |
| Discover Pirates | A | A | 15 | 2.33 | 9 | 10 | 3 |
| APM Undead | S | S | 6 | 2.33 | 2 | 3 | 0 |
| Tea Set | A | A | 7 | 2.43 | 1 | 5 | 1 |
| APM Mechs | S | A | 10 | 2.50 | 4 | 5 | 0 |
| Beetle / Leviathan Beasts | A | A | 15 | 2.73 | 2 | 7 | 2 |
| Glambot Mechs | A | A | 9 | 2.78 | 3 | 5 | 2 |
| Scam Murlocs | A | S / A | 17 | 2.82 | 3 | 8 | 3 |
| Felboar Quilboar | S | S | 19 | 2.95 | 3 | 11 | 4 |
| Lobster Beasts | S | S | 26 | 3.00 | 11 | 13 | 8 |
| Discard Aberrations | C | B | 8 | 3.13 | 1 | 3 | 2 |
| Demons | A | A | 32 | 3.19 | 7 | 14 | 8 |
| Azerite Elementals | S | S | 9 | 3.22 | 2 | 5 | 2 |
| Deity Aberrations | B | A | 11 | 3.27 | 2 | 4 | 2 |
| No clear comp | 35 | 3.46 | 4 | 11 | 8 | ||
| Dragons | A to C | B | 12 | 3.50 | 3 | 5 | 4 |
| Eternal Knight Undead | C | B | 11 | 3.64 | 0 | 2 | 2 |
| Handbuff Murlocs | B | B | 6 | 3.67 | 1 | 2 | 2 |
Comps seen fewer than six times, 13 boards in all, are left out of the table.
- Menagerie, by a mile, and it is on neither list: 12 of the 13 boards built around finished in the top two, 7 of them 1st. Tea Set, the Gatekeeper comp that HSReplay calls Menagerie, is a different board: 7 of those, 5 in the top two. Four of boards also had an , as one more body.
- Snazzy / Butcher Undead: 10 of 14 in the top two and nothing below 4th.
- Lobster Beasts were all or nothing: 11 firsts and 8 finishes at 5th or lower.
- The S tier did not run the weekend: , Lobster and Azerite are S on both lists and all three finished at the average or below it. APM Undead is the one S-tier comp above it, on 6 boards.
- did what both lists say: 11 boards, no 1st place.
- The Dagger: 17 boards with a , 6 of them 1st, an average place of 2.18. As long as you manage to survive holding the Dagger, a win is a matter of time (and the opponent not having a Dagger of their own).
What comes next
Lyme, Sevel, GOTOR8, Alutemu, GuacHS, FanJka, DumplingDan and polskikabak play the semi-finals A on November 13 and semi-finals B on November 14 against eight invited streamers, and the final is on November 15.
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Big thanks once again to everyone who shared their logs: Lyme, Gotor8, Polskikabak, NightKnight, FanJka and Titus, and to everyone who streamed their games.
All the boards recovered from streams and logs are in the board pool.
























